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Best stick to XP. The only thing Shitsta has to offer over XP is the picture viewer (much faster), and DX10, but you can get a crack for XP for that. Or so I'm told.


written by MarineGunrock  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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Vista's been decent to me. The only thing that's bothersome is that my 12 year-old keyboard's custom keys can no longer be customized, but I'll blame Logitech as much as I'll blame M$ for that.

Betcha Logitech is hoping I'll finally get around to buying a new mouse/keyboard combo.

But the one I have is so awesome. If only the media player (winamp) controls still worked all would be well. At least the 4 bookmark/shortcut buttons work, as do sleep, mute and volume...

Oh, and BF2142 gave me a big hassle early on, but then I got some much better games so I don't care anymore.


written by Krupo  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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I downloaded a torrent just now. Vista celebrated the end of the download by having an "unexpected shutdown." Well, I love surprises, and I would have been pretty offended if that shutdown was completely expected.


written by karaidl  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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I like to have my gaming system clean of torrent apps.


written by Krupo  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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All I did was download the DVD version of Ubuntu. (Maybe that's Microsoft's defense system against Linux.)


written by karaidl  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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My only experiences with Vista on my own computers was before the retail release when only the enterprise edition was available. My MS contract at work landed me a copy. Driver support was still really weak at the time. There were no video drivers supporting OpenGL yet, for example, so obviously any OpenGL games were out of the question. But I really didn't have any problems aside from that. I like a lot of the small things they've done. The Gnome-like clickable explorer address bar, the improved wifi controls, the built-in support for image tagging and the "new" indexed search (which has actually been around since late NT4 or 2000).

Ultimately, though, I'm back to XP and I don't think I'll wind up with Vista again. As I game less and less, going back to Gentoo looks better and better.


written by xxovercastxx  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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I have XP on two of my computers, Windows 2000 professional on one and Vista on the other. Other than a small learning curve, I like Vista. Apparently I'm the only one.

It takes a bit of study to make it stop managing me like the government would like to do, but after that it's been fine.


written by silvercord  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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one


written by silvercord  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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two


written by silvercord  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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Obviously Vista has some web-browsing bugs, too.


written by xxovercastxx  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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nah, I'm on XP. The Sift is loading Ssssssssllllooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww and I pushed the button three times.


written by silvercord  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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I'm now very happy to be typing this in XP. My Vista install CD will sit up on a shelf and collect dust for a while longer.


written by karaidl  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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I thought the "two" was a correction to "only one", as I'm okay with it too.


written by Krupo  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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I've had this laptop since April with Vista on it. I don't know much about these things, but I can tell you I've had nothing but weirdness with it. It's constant WTF all the time.


written by swampgirl  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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If you're going back to an old copy of XP be careful of how many times you install it, or have in the past. That's part of why I was away for a while, lost a dog in a bad way (fire ants) so needed time away, then I reinstalled XP to clean up the reg and hard drive and they seem to think it's been installed too many times so came up with a 'if you don't like it call this number and beg' notice.

Turns out after some time on the phone and letters with customer service that they don't even try to see if it's used for multiple IPs or system configurations, they just count the damned installs and assume pirate if it's over some number they don't care to share. For those of us who have had the software for a few years, since 2001 for me, and who aren't afraid to play with configurations since it's always easy enough to start over if we don't like the results, it's a little bonus to being a Microsoft customer which we weren't expecting.

So, I took the time to learn some about Linux, haven't been on a Microsoft system since. The Microsoft system is working after the phone call to get a reg number that works *this* time, but if I got a virus that was easier to deal with through a clean install I'd have to call and explain, if the reg gets clunky and the hard drive full of trash the same, and so on. It just offended me so fucking much that they DEMAND to be a part of my life that I decided they'd now be no part of my life, haven't used Windows or anything else Microsoft since and I don't plan to. Not as long as I live.

They are so worried someone might steal from them that they are willing to preemptively steal from us or force us to jump through hoops to use what we paid for, based on nothing more than half guesses and suspicion. It's not a company model I'll support. Count your installs if you plan to use it and have had it a while. They do.


written by drattus  | 1 year 11 months 1 week ago | CH
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drattus: write down the number they give you. If you have the same combo next time, you can re-use the number instead of re-calling.

I expect the phonecall - I don't even bother to use the online version - due to various hard drive failures and hardware rearrangements on my copy.

If I had more spare time - and didn't play new games (those two variables seem to go hand in hand, actually), I might get around to playing with Linux. But, glorious laziness abounds. That, and day job that doesn't require me to know Linux. Although it wouldn't hurt. Hmm. I need another computer to play with.


written by Krupo  | 1 year 11 months ago | CH
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That's a good idea if it ever comes up again, thanks.

I don't expect it to though, I don't need Microsoft for work or anything else. I won't beg to use something I paid for, period. Haven't played games for years now though there is a gamer out there with the same name. He ain't me though. Wouldn't want to give any website or others the idea that I support a company like that, they gear what they offer around what we use and I no longer use that. If they see more Linux on their logs they'll think more about supporting that.

Linux is easier than it seems though, it only took me that long because I had to install half a dozen different versions and play with them all myself for a while, make sure what I liked most and that I wasn't missing something in them. Any sane person could be up in a day For all practical purposes I was up and running on Kubuntu within an hour of downloading it and it's pretty natural for anyone comfortable with computers. Tried OpenSuse, Mandriva and a couple of others as well but I liked the KDE interface and Kubuntu myself.


written by drattus  | 1 year 11 months ago | CH
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I like the idea of developers seriously considering more Linux support, but the idea seems quixotically romantic at best, unfortunately.

The main reason I hold back is the non-desire to create a new partition for it, and the fact that there doesn't currently feel like there's a "Killer App" kind of reason prompting me to check it out. Unlike, say World in Conflict, which you want to load and play now just because it's so much fun. Psychonauts fun.

My tone on the phone is clearly not begging, though. I'm like, yes, many dead computer components. Many replacements. How's the weather in Mumbai? Cool cool, ciao.


written by Krupo  | 1 year 11 months ago | CH
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You might be right on the linux support, but then again DRM is in trouble now in spite of seeming to be the trend of the future just a couple or few years ago. If it survives it'll be a less intrusive form than they wanted and all it took to force the change was consumers saying no. I'm happy enough to do that. Lots of things have changed over time which seemed wishful thinking at some point.

If you're a gamer or need it for work you might be better off to stay with Windows but for me there was no reason not to make the move. Only thing that isn't 100% is flash, the rest of what I use daily I see no problems in. Some aspects are actually better, mplayer for example runs fullscreen quicktime instead of in that little box we're stuck with on Windows. Computer is a bit faster and I went from a real "I'm needing an upgrade soon" frame of mind to being able to wait a bit longer. When I do buy I'm planning to be as open source compliant as possible, no nvidia or other proprietary stuff to deal with. Intel cards and others work just fine, if the ones that insist on proprietary lose business they'll get the idea same as they did with DRM.


written by drattus  | 1 year 11 months ago | CH
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I'm giving karaidl a *quality star for this, but only so it will lower his votes-to-stars ratio.

Naah. It's good to know that I'm not the only one who has problems with Vista. It places big time demands on my video card, and that REALLY pisses me off because way back before Vista came out Microsoft had a web page where, if you let them, they would run a check on your PC to see if it was "Vista-ready." I did it, and everything checked out A-OK. Then when Vista was finally released I bought it, installed it without much difficulty, but then noticed my monitor gets speckly shit on the screen whenever I've got video playing. So I looked into it and wouldn't you know, suddenly my PC's video card was no longer "Vista-ready". What a bunch of bullshit.

Fucking Microsoft.


written by kronosposeidon  | 1 year 11 months ago | CH
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Awarding karaidl with one star point for this contribution to Sift Talk - declared quality by kronosposeidon.


written by siftbot  | 1 year 11 months ago | CH
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Man now I'm really screwed. I was messing around with installing Ubuntu and I've seriously messed up on my partitioning. Both Linux and Vista are recognizing my whole hard drive, but XP is only seeing 132 gigs of it. I tried installing XP on that 132 gigs and then extending the partition, but that didn't work - instead I got a boot error. So I tried wiping the whole drive with Killdisk, but that didn't work either - still reading the drive as 132 gigs. I'm using Vista right now cuz that's the one that installs the fastest, but I'm trying to figure out what could be doing this.


written by karaidl  | 1 year 11 months ago | CH
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karaidl, you may want to try burning a GParted Live CD -- that's what fixed me up with the partition issues I was having a while back.

I built myself a new computer about a month ago, and it is proudly microsoft-free. I haven't got absolutely everything running the way I want it to under Ubuntu yet, but I know that I will, because there are no restrictions on how much things can be tweaked.

I'm still not recommending Linux to everybody, because it can take a LOT of time to get things working just right. But for me, it makes me very happy.


written by arvana  | 1 year 11 months ago | CH
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The GParted Live CD is what I used to extend the XP NTFS partition.


written by karaidl  | 1 year 11 months ago | CH
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Nevermind, the problem be fixed now. XP can see my whole drive.


written by karaidl  | 1 year 11 months ago | CH
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*discard


written by karaidl  | 1 year 1 week ago | CH
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Discarding this post - discard requested by original submitter karaidl.


written by siftbot  | 1 year 1 week ago | CH
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I presume this was discarded because he ended up getting Vista to work


written by Krupo  | 1 year 1 week ago | CH
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