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Why the chicken shit $1000?
Fuck that, I will give $999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.01 to anyone who can prove to me that Cthulhu doesn't exist.
Fuck that, I will give $999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.01 to anyone who can prove to me that Cthulhu doesn't exist.
I'm just sayin.
But yeah, I'm throwing this into the catagory of "I don't understand how science works, and therefore I'm using that as proof god exists."
I can't PROVE that cause and effect, gravitation, laws of thermodynamics, etc will continue to operate in the future as in the past ad infinitum,
THEREFORE,
Every idiotic claim you make is true....
Hmmm.
I'm not sure I see quite how that works exactly...
All bow before FSM!
WHAT THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE'S SAYING? I mean really? I just... I just can't even begin to argue with a patently moronic idiot like this because he doesn't even BEGIN to make sense.
We can expect the things such as gravity, cause and effect and entropy to continue to act in the way that they do tomorrow because our OBSERVATIONS over a long, long long period of time have shown them to continue to act as we would expect. We do not see anything changing that would cause us to believe or surmise that they will cease to act in this way, so we BELIEVE that they will continue to do so.
Saying that we BELIEVE in something does not somehow mean that religious folk right... we believe based on evidence. They believe based on... well, sweet FA.
Although in it he says that he doesn't believe that the sun will come every day, in fact he's always skeptical it will. Which is fine and all in regards to getting the point across, but also is a little silly. Once you get to a certain point of having gathered enough data, and seen something fit a model perfectly for a long time, I think it's pretty reasonable to assume and be comfortable with assuming that said sun is going to rise at the prescribed time the next day.
For the record, though, he's not asking atheists to prove a negative. That's a complete misunderstanding of his position. Rather, he's asking for atheists to solve the problem of induction--which is a strange question, given that the theist has no adequate solution, either.
Mr Tripplehorn is Not very nice"/a>"
i53network is a Christian Broadcasting Network, and I want him to stop using the advances of Science to bash science.
Mr Tripplehorn is Not very nice"/a>"
This guy should give lessons on how to break up with someone in a way that honors their inner light.
From the link:
There's nothing anybody can do to prove the sun will come out tomorrow, Atheist or Christian.
There's always the possibility that the sun can supernova and that would A) First off, make it not come out the next day because there's no sun
and B)Not make it come out tomorrow because we just exploded.
There's the possibility that the earth can have an axis shift, in which case we'd almost all die anyway. For us, the sun wouldn't come out tomorrow, we'd be dead.
The REASON you can't win this bet, is because every time you say "And then the suns gravitational pull continues to keep earth revolving around the sun at a constant speed which therefore allows the sun to "rise""
they just say "And where did the sun come from?" When you say that it's not possible to prove, they go "God" laugh at you, and then send you away, without 1000$ in your pocket.
i53network is a Christian Broadcasting Network, and I want him to stop using the advances of Science to bash science.
Mr Tripplehorn is Not very nice"/a>"
Slight correction: He WASN'T very nice http://www.legacy.com/DFW/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonId=120813856
Show me a scientist worth his salt, who when pressed on the issue of extrapolating the future, that will make a claim with absolute certainty, and ill pay you a thousand bucks.
When it comes down to it, anything and everything is possible, even god is a possibility, as is the FSM...but how low on the probability scale to they rank when shown in comparison to accepted scientific theory ?
Agnosticism and Atheism are not philosophies of absolute disbelief, they merely put a benevolent creator at the very very very bottom of the plausibility list. So far down that its not even a consideration in anything that has ever happened, or ever will happen in terms of understanding how the universe works.
http://i53network.org/5300Challenge.html
So.. which bus to I need to get on? Where is it 'actually' located? Underground? Well.. I better start digging a hole right now.
It's quite overcast here in LA.
Any Christians who are wincing right now in abject pain?
Yeah, this guy's an idiot.
Anyone read this total bullsh-t challenge? What kind of coward makes these bold claims of reward to anyone who can answer the questions and then does this:
Ok, so your contest will never be "official".. bravo.
1. To receive the $5,300, you must answer the question(s) without contradicting yourself.
define "contradict".
6. All responses cost $1.00. This cost is not to generate revenue but rather to curb excessive and superfluous responses.
Ok, nice challenge. Surely they will receive thousands of entries to their bullsh-t challenge. So they aren't even putting up their own money. BUt I agree it is helpful to limit entries especially if people have to read them.
11. Only one $5,300 prize will be allotted. This prize will go to the first individual who can answer the question(s) below without contradicting him or herself.
Ok, again is it first one submitted? First one submitted after the contest becomes "official". What lying cowards.
8. At the top of your response, please state your ultimate epistemological authority... You must be extremely specific when stating your ultimate epistemological authority. That is, you will need to explicitly tell us the one religious text or the one living person that you consider to be ultimately authoritative.
How is this a challenge to atheists or agnostics??? Also, the rules state:
If in your submission, you give ultimate authority to any other living person other than yourself, your submission will be automatically invalidated, and you will lose your $1.00.
So by definition of the contest you must state the ONE religious text you follow. What kind of morons are these? Note that the "Bible" is not in fact one religious text even.
Now the questions immediately invalidate the contest because you cannot answer them all by definition without contradiction. They only apply to different belief systems.
Question 1 & 2
These two questions are for the atheist, postmodernist, or any individual who thinks that man constructs his truth rather than discovers a transcendent truth outside of himself.
Question 3
This next question is for the agnostic, for anyone who does not hold to a formal system of thought, for anyone who holds himself to be ultimately authoritative, or for any non-Christian who believes that truth is discovered rather than constructed ... Please note that this question pertains to all individuals who believe in a god, but their belief stems from their own mind, rather than from some divinely revealed text.
Question 4
This question is for the Hindu, the Buddhist, or any adherent of an (eastern) religion that denies the existence of propositional truth on an ultimate level.
Question 5
This next question is for any adherent of Islam, Roman Catholicism, Judaism, Mormonism, Jehovah Witness, or any monotheistic religion which possesses an authoritative text (or revelation) that claims its (infinite) God has characteristics of justice and mercy.
This is the biggest joke and exercise in mental masturbation. By the contest's own rules even the Christian author of the challenge has failed and cannot collect the money. I'm glad God decided to smote this charlatan
What a smug little cock.
>> ^joedirt:
God doesn't agree. Or at least God decided to take him up to heaven early.
God didn't decide anything.
Apparently Mr Tripplehorn did us all a favor and removed himself from the equation BEFORE gracing us with any little Tripplehorns. This post certainly earned its EIA tag.
I wonder how suicide ranks in his religious views...
"Dear, BillO the clown,
I am so sick of reading your stupid bullshit on this site."
Sincerely,
JiggaJonson's cat Zero
p.s. fuck you
... but hey, if he's happy with his explanation of the world then I'm happy for him.
The obituary was linked from a post on his website here (http://www.legacy.com/DFW/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonId=120813856).
His life was apparently turned upside down after he made news in 2003 for an email scandal that played out while he was interning at a Senator's office in DC.
The basis of science is exactly not to be certain that what is true today will stand true tomorrow. Believing that a demonstrated fact (in past and present) is going to continue intact tomorrow is dogmatic and counter-scientific to say the least. In science there's no place for belief. Putting a theory to the test is always about checking if all given factors involved in that theory are at the moment as they were.
In practical terms the fact that the day begun means the sun is pretty much the same, so there isn't even a real concern there. If such elementar characteristics of the World would suddenly change, scientists would've to figure out why and not go "Hey, it's God's caprice..." which is exactly what this little man is implying when assuming nothing of science can be proven without recurring to God.
In fact, this elementar characteristics do change but in a slow rate for the span of a human life-time. And it's the work of scientists always checking if these characteristics are as they were that aknowledge that in fact they aren't. If these scientists believed in the cycle of the sun (to save time for pray perhaps, lazy christians?) this knowledge would never be. Way to go, amateur, relgious-driven science.
And to wrap it up, they ask mean ole not-god-guided creatures to stand before such task of proving religulous-sciencers wrong, with a money reward. Isn't this a suculent prize, MONEY, oh fellow imoral, no-goddy humans?
"There is no logical impossibility in the hypothesis that the world sprang into being five minutes ago, exactly as it then was, with a population that "remembered" a wholly unreal past. There is no logically necessary connection between events at different times; therefore nothing that is happening now or will happen in the future can disprove the hypothesis that the world began five minutes ago."
Bertrand Russell
Of course, the same problem applies to God.
>> ^StukaFox:
Somewhere, Zombie David Hume is tearing out his own liver in rage . . .
And Karl Popper. C. S. Lewis would be laughing his head off.
for postertity and conveinence, i'll paste his e-mail that got him fired:
The Original Email
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:11 PM
To: NAME_WITHHELD@aol.com
Subject: you suck
Well, as of this afternoon, I was planning on ruining your career by making phone calls to all of my parents friends and have you blackballed from the workplace as well as every prestigous law school in the country, but then (lucky for you) I decided not to do that because you are a sad sad person and I will just let your life self destruct right before my eyes....
NAME_WITHHELD I am sorry, I don't care how big of sadistic fucked up crush you have on me but people like me simple don't date people like you. You are too competitive with me and you just simply will never be better than me. I will always have more friends than you just because I don't care about beating people and lying to get to the top. (You are an absolute hipocrit in everything that you do, I am not going to go into details why you are because that would be a waste of my time and yours but I can assure you if you were to ever meet yourself you would hate your twin) I have told most all of the staff about our situation now and they already knew you were really messed you. They said when you were talking to them about me, they all told me you had "serious issues" and that every word you said sounded scripted and they knew without a doubt that you were lying. I have noticed that people who you think are your good friends actually really dislike you but unlike me, they will not tell you to your face because they would rather be fake nice to you than be your enemy. ....
Now talking about how I am obsessed with money, I simply am not. You are. You always are trying to impress me by how much money you have and I don't care. The difference is though I talk about it but it is never about bragging and it is never directly about money, it is always directly about the conversation.
For instance, someone will ask, what are you doing for july 4rth. And then I will say I am going to aspen. It is a simple fact that I am but since you don't have a house in aspen, you get offended because of your competitive nature. When you talk about money you will say something like UT's tuition is 5% of your family's income, thus my tuition would be 125,000. Yea,
NAME_WITHHELD you are right, I brag too much about what I have.... Well I am just going to stop writing because you are just absolutely beneath me. I have heard that you try to undermine people all t! he time that are better than you and every single time it does not work because people can see through such shallowness and that is why as I have heard so many times, Most "everyone at UT absolutely hates you." For instance even the people that you thought were your friends FRIENDSNAMEWITHHELD or that girl you met at espn, they hate you, they just never say anything. Everyone knows you are a pathetic social climber who will go to any discusting means to move up the ladder.
But guess what NAME_WITHHELD, you will never move up the ladder because I am at the top and people like me hate people like you. You might be able to trick people like me for maybe a month or so but your true personality comes through after a while and it is vile, if that. You have sooooo many people that absolutely hate you and you will never know it because they will never say anything to your face. You will not succeed in life and even the staff thinks that also, after I told them about the things that you do. You suck!
and good luck being miserable for the rest of your life. I do not even know why I wasted my time typing this for suck slime. Everyone tells me that you are so beneath me (which you are) and I should not get worked up over suck trifles.
By the end of the day if I wanted to, I could make a phone call and have your life absolutely ruined but there is no need because you are falling fast enough towards failure without me. In the end, all I can say is that people love me and people hate you. You should observe me and take a few notes on how to make real friends. Other than you tieing this one other person, I have never had such little respect for a human being in my life. I don't even have to tell you why because in my very accurate analysis that most everyone else agrees with, if you were to agree with my analysis that most everyone else agrees with, if you were to agree with my analyis about your character than my whole entire analysis would be wrong.
Your inflamed ego has left you so blind and so impotent that you can nto even recognize the most obvious flaws in yourself. All your old roommates absolutely hated you and you still think the problem is with them, not you. Well I talked to your roommates and I thought they nice normal girls. So naturally, you would not fit in with them because you are so intellectually above them all. Right? You suck at life and you need to figure out why or you will be miserable for the rest of your life.
Once again from your intellectual, moral, social, and emotional superior,
Paul Kelly Tripplehorn, Jr.
I think its the guy in the video that was chewing someone out, but I've got no idea why.
edit:
You’re probably asking, “Who?” Kelly Tripplehorn was an intern for Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, and got his fifteen minutes of internet fame by sending a very nasty email (from his tripplehorny@aol.com email addy, natch) to a fellow intern with whom he had a brief relationship.
“Michele, I am sorry, I don’t care how big of a sadistic fucked up crush you have on me but people like me simply don’t date people like you.” Is a typical line from the infamous email that got Tripplehorn dismissed from his internship.
Edit: I see he killed himself. Guess he's in hell and I'm still free to go to heaven. haha what a fucknut, good riddance.
>> ^budzos:
If heaven is full of idiots like this guy, send my ass to hell please.
Edit: I see he killed himself. Guess he's in hell and I'm still free to go to heaven. haha what a fucknut, good riddance.
I sincerely hope there is something after death, for all of us, but especially for people who died without living a fulfilling life.
But perhaps some good can come out of this, if his suicide makes people more critical of his religious opinions, and look harder at their own choices.
>> ^budzos:
No, not for his beliefs, but because I look at this guy and see an evil piece of shit ready to go out and spread a lot of hurt in the world. He saw it too. As if this guy wasn't going to wantonly rape, molest, and embezzle should he have gotten the power he so obviously craved. He did the world a favour.
But he's wishing an eternity of pain beyond imagining on the vast majority of human life. He's saying to me that he thinks I'm going to burn in a lake of fire, and he's smiling when he says it. Think about that.
He's horrible, hateful, and weak. Removing him from the gene pool is a net positive for the species, so for that reason I can take some pleasure in the fact of his death. The great worth of human life is one of the biggest lies we tell ourselves.
You're going to have a hard time standing on whatever moral ground you think you have if you think it's OK to look down and not only laugh about a person who committed suicide, but find any joy in it. You're entitled to think whatever you want about this guy. He's stupid. He's wrong. Whatever. But celebrating his suicide makes you the sick one imo. I'm not defending his position on religion. I'm voicing my disgust over your wanton carelessness for human life and complete disregard for it. The way you make it sound it would be OK if you murdered him yourself.
Every sperm is not sacred. Good riddance!
I find the question to be loaded.
There's nothing anybody can do to prove the sun will come out tomorrow, Atheist or Christian.
There's always the possibility that the sun can supernova and that would A) First off, make it not come out the next day because there's no sun
and B)Not make it come out tomorrow because we just exploded.
Actually, no, our sun can never go supernova because it simply doesn't have the mass to go supernova. It will go red giant during its final stages, but that can only happen when it burns up a certain percentage of its fuel. And we know this won't happen soon because we can deduce at which stage our sun is.